Women and children were anointed in the first century and they had no "ms, elder status". Still this is no surprise, remember as a teenager in 1975 in our congregation a young guy in his twenties claimed to be of the anointed. He was disfellowshipped for causing divisions because he stated his case so stridently. I remember being shocked when I met a co here, he was a former drug addict and became a witness and claims to be anointed. I had to laugh because he would have been disfellowshipped if it had been back home in my old cong. Here he has hero status, everyone quotes him, but he is such a big head!
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my friend is being hounded by the elders for coming out of the closet!
by hoser inhis conscience moved him to partake at the memorial last year and now the elders are harassing him.
he's for real a real believer that he's annointed and has the calling.
they are calling him crazy and removed all his "privileges" with the congregation..
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My Dad died
by aquagirl inmy dad,an elder for 25plus years,concentration camp survivor,the works,died in a few weeks ago.i am df'd but have been the only one who helps him and my mum.my jw sister couldnt give a rats ass about them.i was at my mom and dads house after he died,helping my mom with everyting,hell,id been there for 2 months because i was afraid to leave them alone.i knew my dad wasnt feeling well.guess he was worse than i realized.he died.the witnesses came in droves.small kitchen.im sitting at the table.they not only didnt speak to me,but they didnt even acknowledge that i was in the room,about day 3,i stopped answering the door..one "lady" called.sister carol.when i answered the phone she hesitated and said",now you know,i caint tawk to yew"{strong southern accent.ala elie may clampett}"you orta let cher mawma ainser the phone.
"i told her to bite me and hung up on her...same here,when we got back home.i hate these people with the fury of a thousand suns,but for some reason,i am now in possession of some great elders notes.been laying low,but im going to start posting the juicy stuff.just cause itd be nice for calvin to know that he was seen "dancing recklessly" at a wedding and that sister renee was being councied for her weight and still insisted on gaining more.also that sister e wasnt giving her husband his "due"..{yik}and that certain concetration camp survivors were being coerced into saying that they were jw's at the time of incarceration.but one wouldnt.my dad refused to play their game,and as a result he was asked to step down as an elder at age of 80.that and that he refused to shun me.his notes have been very enlightening..nice folks thise jw's,no?
they were so mean to my dad, he really believed this crap,and tried to do the right thing.but because he wouldnt dance their way,and turn me,his favorite person{and he was mine|into the cold they treated him badly and mocked him and even his accent.i hate them.really.any ideas?the local elder here,just asked my mom about her financial situation...grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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chicken little
So sorry to hear about your dear Dad, he had a treasure in you and he knew it! Weird to think that the witnesses love to pull out the concentration camp survivors and interview them (those that are left), yet cast your Dad aside after a lifetime of service. Hateful and willfully wicked. I hope you can support your mum, ask her if she really wants to see these people. If she doesn't then tell them they are not welcome anymore.
Much love and a hug
Chicken little
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Thank God for Morals ?
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Try moral sense test on Harvard University webpage....very interesting
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Thank God for Morals ?
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chicken little
Just read newspaper article here in Denmark..not sure where the source info is from, it says Harvard University has undertaken a survey of thousands of people worldwide and they all took a Moral Sense Test. The result is that we all decide the same morally no matter what our religion, background etc is. The thinking is that morality is inborn and therefore prior to religious influence.
I will try and track down the study.
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79% of Americans Believe in Miracles
by behemot inhttp://abcnews.go.com/wn/miracles-world-news-question-day/story?id=9908545.
the full study here:.
http://pewforum.org/docs/?docid=510.
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Hard work works better!
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A term that put me in my cult mind set...but only for a second
by doublelife ini was just hanging up my husband's shirts and started on the section where he had his dress shirts.
but what i thought in my head was "meeting shirts.
" and i quickly realized that i have to start saying "dress shirts" instead.
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chicken little
Yes...I understand that one! Remember the old joke..how to tell a jehovah's witness? Only window cleaner with five suits in the wardrobe!
The first thing my husband did after we left was bundle all his suits and ties into a black sack and give them to charity. I think now about those crazy days when we would get home from work change into field service clothes, then drive home for lunch and change into meeting clothes. Then sometimes home after the meeting and change again into work clothes....so idiotic.
I used to wonder what our neighbours thought, we must have come across as soooooooo weird!
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Faith complicates a young mother's life-or-death decision on lung transplant
by behemot inhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/16/ar2010021606057.html.
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chicken little
Thank you for posting this. I am so relieved that this woman changed her mind. It is true she may die under the forthcoming operation, but she is not a martyr for the Jw religion. Hopefully her children will also be kept away from the religion in the future.
How sad that her "spiritual family" turn their backs on her at such a critical time. The much used expression "what would Jesus have done?", comes to mind and there is no way he would behave the way these people do.
All the best thoughts to this lady.
Chicken little
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Kidnapping children that are not registered or even proven to be orphans is a terrible crime. These people are taking advantage of the chaos in the country and they should be held accountable for their actions. I hope they are given serious sentences as that will discourage other religious groups from doing similar things in other poor countries.
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Your worst field service experience.
by littlebird inmy worst field service experience was this.. i didn't have a car at the time and so a pioneer sister was picking me up of service every couple of days.
she was my partner and i got a door where the woman was clearly not interested.
as i am stepping away the pioneer sister starts in with all the objection stoppers.
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On service with my pioneer, ms, boyfriend, together for the first time. I was quaking as I had not tried preaching with a brother before, and one I wanted to impress (shallow, I know!). Well I rang the bell and a glass door with wrought iron work over the top was opened. I had a huge smile on my face and said "HELLO!" The man who opened the door had lipstick on and had a look of fury on his face. He slammed the door shut and the glass shattered leaving us staring at him through the wrought iron railings. I looked at my boyfriend and he said what do we do? I said Run! The guy was spitting hate by then at us.
Not the best start to a doomed relationship...thank goodness.
I had a door where my pioneer partner, a shy prudish sister, suddenly froze and went red. I carried on talking to the lady and could not understand what was happening. When we left the door my friend was in a real tither. She said she felt unclean and had to go home. Apparently a naked man had been standing playing with himself at the top of the stairs, unaware that my friend could see right up the stairs. I was in stitches, I thought it was so funny. She was unmarried and said she had never seen a mans bits before. Funny.
One bad, yet sad experience when I was 12. We went on a bible study to an older ladies home. The place was so filthy and stinking that it was terrible to be there. The lady had a dog that peed on the carpet and nothing was cleaned up. When we came home we all were itching and had to put all our clothes in the washing machine. When I think back we should have got her some kind of help, we were not interested in her as such, just counting time.
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a dub at my door said my childs abuse was an isolated case !
by looloo ini left town after the court case for a fresh start , it was 18 months before dubs knocked on my door , so i told them why i was not interested in their message , aswell as the watchtower payouts in may 2007 ,with gag orders attached , they seemed quite shocked by that but warned me to be carefull what information i read on the web !
i told them that in america they do not make up the news !
they seemed quite shocked about what happened to my child but said it would have ben an isolated case !
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Welcome!